I do it too, on occasion. My signing is nowhere near fluent, but sometimes (esp. in a noisey atmosphere) using BSL feels natural, even to me.
Yeah, kimble says that too. This is why we are doing more sign classes so we have better vocab and aren't just using bad SSE. I'd like to be more BSLish.
I'm not entirely sure I understand what you mean by that.
When you use speech each word is considered and doesn't flow 100% fluently from one word to the next. I always assumed this was an artifact of you signing some of the time cos when you sign+speech it is hard not to go a bit stilted. I have been told that after a few hours of signing+speaking if there is mixed hearing/deaf group that I actually sound Deaf cos I am not concentrating so much on my speech.
I was speaking a few months ago with my ex-housemate (who is studying something linguistic-y) who made the comment that late language developers (such as me - I didn't speak a coherent word until around 3 years old) often treat their mother tongue as a foreign language.
That would describe it quite accurately, some people who speak English as a foreign language pause in unusual places which I notice cos of course I am lipreading and pattern matching. If someone is very fast+fluent in speech it is different following them than someone who speaks in chunks or word by word. You are sort of half way between them, you have sort of bursts of output as it were which is ideal for signing with :).
I didn't speak till I was over 2.5yrs of age which is quite late for a hearing child but reasonable for a deaf child. I was diagnosed at 8mos and hearing aided from 10 mos. My mum had support and we had joint speech therapy 3 times a week and my mum talks the hind leg off several donkeys. At 5 years old I went to school and my first report comments on my marked Glaswegian accent :).
I will go and check out the Stephen Pinker thing, cos we discussed that just before BiCon I remember.
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Date: 2004-09-21 02:12 pm (UTC)Yeah,
I'm not entirely sure I understand what you mean by that.
When you use speech each word is considered and doesn't flow 100% fluently from one word to the next. I always assumed this was an artifact of you signing some of the time cos when you sign+speech it is hard not to go a bit stilted. I have been told that after a few hours of signing+speaking if there is mixed hearing/deaf group that I actually sound Deaf cos I am not concentrating so much on my speech.
I was speaking a few months ago with my ex-housemate (who is studying something linguistic-y) who made the comment that late language developers (such as me - I didn't speak a coherent word until around 3 years old) often treat their mother tongue as a foreign language.
That would describe it quite accurately, some people who speak English as a foreign language pause in unusual places which I notice cos of course I am lipreading and pattern matching. If someone is very fast+fluent in speech it is different following them than someone who speaks in chunks or word by word. You are sort of half way between them, you have sort of bursts of output as it were which is ideal for signing with :).
I didn't speak till I was over 2.5yrs of age which is quite late for a hearing child but reasonable for a deaf child. I was diagnosed at 8mos and hearing aided from 10 mos. My mum had support and we had joint speech therapy 3 times a week and my mum talks the hind leg off several donkeys. At 5 years old I went to school and my first report comments on my marked Glaswegian accent :).
I will go and check out the Stephen Pinker thing, cos we discussed that just before BiCon I remember.
Natalya